1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,680 I live in Penn Valley, California. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:13,400 My wife and I were just driving home, I'd say 10 minutes ago, 15 minutes ago, from a 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,400 friend's house. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:21,040 She saw something in the sky and I looked and what it appeared to be, it was like a 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,040 meteor with a tail. 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,040 It was kind of a bluish. 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:35,840 It looked like it kind of disappeared, kind of exploded into a hill just behind the hardware 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,840 store, a big hill. 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,440 I mean, from vision, you know, how the vision things look, it looked like the size of a 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,440 fist, but of course it would have been a lot bigger, a big object. 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:52,560 I don't believe that you have phones, but I just called the sheriff's department and 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,960 they said that there was a lady on the phone right now that it seemed the exact same thing 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:58,960 that I'd seen. 14 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:05,120 You know, you're not seeing meteors, they kind of light up the whole sky. 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,600 It just didn't, and I could tell it wasn't way out there in space. 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:15,960 It was right here in Penn Valley, you know, and it apparently landed in a hill behind 17 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:16,960 the hardware store. 18 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:19,200 Okay, what color was it? 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,200 What color? 20 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,200 Right. 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:28,680 It looked so quick, you know, like I'm trying to just recap how it was, but the ball itself 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:35,440 looked to me to be kind of a goldish color and the tail appeared to be kind of a, maybe, 23 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,080 I know it had blue in it, you know, it was a long, a bright thing, you know, it looked 24 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,080 real pretty, you know. 25 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:45,080 It's like my first impression, it looked like some kind of a fireworks, but when I saw it, 26 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:51,400 you know, I knew that that wasn't what it was and that it was as big as that and it 27 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:57,600 wasn't real sparky, you know, it looked more just like a tail, you know. 28 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,040 Yes, what was the direction of flight? 29 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,520 Well, I've only lived out here since March and 1st in Texas and I'm kind of still turned 30 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,560 around, but let me see if I can get my bearings straight. 31 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Okay. 32 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:18,920 To me, it looked like it was going kind of, okay, now I live in Penn Valley, it looked 33 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:22,120 like it was going towards Grass Valley and Grass Valley is north of here, so I'd say 34 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,960 it was going kind of northwest. 35 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:24,960 Okay. 36 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,840 Now, was this coming in at an angle or was it coming straight down? 37 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:37,600 No, it was going, it wasn't going straight down to the ground, it was going, I'd say, 38 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,480 what do you say, vertical? 39 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:45,760 I mean, it wasn't going straight up now, but you know, it was going at an angle. 40 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Just angling in, you know, okay. 41 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,760 But it wasn't a sharp angle. 42 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,760 Right, okay. 43 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,760 You know, it was more, it was not horizontal but vertical. 44 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,920 Did you hear any sound associated with this? 45 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:58,920 We had the windows up in the car. 46 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:01,400 We were talking at the time and I didn't hear anything. 47 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Okay. 48 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,400 Did you hear your radio on in the car? 49 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,400 No, we were just talking. 50 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,200 Okay. 51 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,200 And then we started it. 52 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,200 But what time did that happen? 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Okay, right now it's 1131, I'd say it was about 01110, something like that. 54 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,200 Okay. 55 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,200 And that was you and your wife were witness to that. 56 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,200 Close for one moment, please. 57 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,200 You okay? 58 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,200 You have full reporting center? 59 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,200 Starting from Fort Irville, California. 60 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:42,200 About 1125 tonight to the north of Fort Irville when it would have been somewhere over the 61 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,200 Sierra Nevada. 62 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,200 It looked like about 30 or 40,000 feet in the air. 63 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,200 You saw a brilliant flash, it was just like lightning. 64 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:59,200 And then it exploded like a Roman candle and it then went vertical right down to the earth. 65 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,200 And then began to extinguish as it went down. 66 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,200 Okay, sir. 67 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,200 And then back on this we got three or four other lines going. 68 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Okay, we'll get back to you in a few minutes. 69 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,200 Okay, thank you. 70 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,200 Thank you for holding, sir. 71 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,200 It looks like we're going to get a lot of reports from on that thing. 72 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Really? 73 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,200 And you'll probably get some people calling from the Russian Red Air, Grash Valley, that's 74 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,200 all the same area. 75 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,200 Okay. 76 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,200 All right, sir. 77 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:28,200 Well, if we get anything on this in the way of evidence in our investigation, we'll be 78 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,200 sharing it back to you and let you know. 79 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,200 What do you think it was? 80 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:38,200 I won't say yet, but we get enough by-witness accounts on this and get a fix on it by the 81 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,200 way we come up with a definite answer. 82 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,200 Okay. 83 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,200 Thanks a lot. 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,200 You bet. 85 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,200 You're up over at the reporting center? 86 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,200 Yes, this is the Amateur Cache Air Force Department. 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,200 Yes. 88 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Where are you located exactly? 89 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,200 Seattle, Washington. 90 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,200 I see. 91 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:59,200 We just had a hell of a big flash of light down here and what it was, nobody knows. 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Apparently it was seen in about three counties. 93 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,200 Okay, we're getting a lot of calls on it. 94 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,200 Are you getting calls on that clear, sir? 95 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,200 Yes, we are. 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,200 Do you have any idea what it was? 97 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Not yet. 98 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:18,200 One person called, said, a woman here near Jackson, said she thought she seemed like a 99 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,200 flying object and then the flash. 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Uh-huh. 101 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:28,200 I seen the flash and I, of course, I was kind of downtown and hell, our phone is just lightin' 102 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,200 up here. 103 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,200 People askin' what the hell it was. 104 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,200 Well, apparently it lit up an area of 60-hundred miles in diameter. 105 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Okay. 106 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,200 Or better. 107 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,200 Fine, thank you. 108 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Okay. 109 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,200 Right. 110 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Bye. 111 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,200 Bye. 112 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,200 You have a reporting center? 113 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Hello there. 114 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,200 This is Sheriff's Office in Patrick Rostock County in California. 115 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Yes, ma'am. 116 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,200 You had a report of anything up in this county or Alameda County? 117 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,200 Yes, ma'am. 118 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,200 Where's Swamp with Calls? 119 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,200 You are too. 120 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,200 Do you have any idea what it is? 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,200 A tentative identification meteor fireball. 122 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,200 Fine, thank you very much. 123 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,200 You're welcome. 124 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,200 I don't know what I saw. 125 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,200 UFO, I just saw something burning in the sky tonight. 126 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Uh-huh. 127 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,200 And did you get any other calls about it? 128 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,200 Yes, sir. 129 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,200 Where are you located? 130 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,200 Uh, Pleasanton, California. 131 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,200 Did you get a lot of calls about it? 132 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Yes, with what it was called. 133 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,200 And just the California area? 134 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,200 Right. 135 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,200 Okay, thank you very much. 136 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:22,200 You're welcome. 137 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Okay. 138 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,200 And what's your name? 139 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,200 I'm a lawyer. 140 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Oh, is this the UFO Reporting Center? 141 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,200 Yes. 142 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,200 I just called the Cassadena Police Department. 143 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:35,200 We were driving down Orange Grove Boulevard in Cassadena. 144 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,200 Yes. 145 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,200 And we thought we saw a plane crash. 146 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,200 Okay, could you hold for one moment, please? 147 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,200 Sure. 148 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,200 Oh, they saw it too, huh? 149 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,200 A lot of people. 150 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,200 Really? 151 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,200 Right. 152 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,200 It was always strange. 153 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,200 How big of an area was it seen? 154 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,200 It was over the Southwest. 155 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,200 Oh, you're kidding. 156 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,200 My goodness. 157 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,200 But it wasn't any Marsman or anything else? 158 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:03,200 We feel that the tentative identification would be a meteor fireball. 159 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,200 I see. 160 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Okay. 161 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Okay, thank you. 162 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,200 You're welcome. 163 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,200 Bye-bye. 164 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,200 This is Cuddling the Police Department in County. 165 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Yes, sir. 166 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:16,200 Have you had any reports of anything strange, I guess, would be in the San Francisco area? 167 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,200 Yes, we've had calls clear South to San Diego. 168 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,200 And inland about 100 miles. 169 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,200 Yeah. 170 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Well, I was outside. 171 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,200 We've had several calls up here too. 172 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,200 And I saw it out there. 173 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,200 I've seen Cuddling Stars, but this was big. 174 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,200 So I didn't know what it was. 175 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,200 And I thought I might as well see if anybody else had called on it. 176 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,200 Did you get any sound off of that explosion? 177 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,200 I didn't even hear an explosion. 178 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,200 We were about 35 miles north. 179 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,200 We're about 50 miles north of San Francisco. 180 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,200 Right. 181 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,200 I was facing south when I saw it. 182 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,200 And it was really fast. 183 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,200 And like normal shooting stars, and I've seen her following stars, I'll be calling them. 184 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,200 They kind of go for a while. 185 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,200 This thing here was just for maybe a second. 186 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,200 And it had a lot of real bright orange sparks behind it. 187 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:12,200 And the more I was sitting in relationship, it was as big as the moon to me. 188 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:20,200 And it was kind of a greenish white, I guess, with this orange tail. 189 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,200 And then it went down behind where we could see. 190 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,200 And then it led up the whole sky kind of whitish blue. 191 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:34,200 In fact, when I saw it, I thought somebody had shot a fireworks or something just here in town. 192 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,200 But then some other people said it was south of town. 193 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,200 So I thought it would be cool anyway. 194 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,200 I can think it was about 11, 25. 195 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,200 Right. 196 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,200 Okay. 197 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,200 Our tentative identification on this is a meteor fireball of some kind, but that's not definite. 198 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,200 Yeah. 199 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,200 Okay. 200 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,200 Well, I appreciate your information anyway. 201 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,200 Okay. 202 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,200 Thank you. 203 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,200 Bye-bye. 204 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,200 You're aboard boarding, sir. 205 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,200 Is this the right course? 206 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,200 Are you prior flight service stations? 207 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,200 Yes. 208 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,200 Hello? 209 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,200 Yes. 210 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,200 Are you familiar with where we are here? 211 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,200 Yes, sir. 212 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,200 Okay. 213 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,200 We're getting lots of UFO-type reports. 214 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Actually, they don't say that, but they say balls with green light. 215 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:14,200 And one fellow was looking right up to the west of Ukiah here. 216 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:20,200 He saw a red and green and white flashing object in the sky, not moving it up, up, and down. 217 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,200 Uh-huh. 218 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,200 We saw a great big flash of light was reported by several different people, including the 219 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,200 police and ILA patrol, just to the east of Ukiah here. 220 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:37,200 And I called the Sheriff's Department and they said they'd been having reports all over California. 221 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,200 And I got another call just after that. 222 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,200 It was the first period I spent a row in there. 223 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:47,200 They said that there was a fellow called and reported three such objects out around 224 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,200 Mount Santa Monica in the area, just to the northeast of them. 225 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,200 Uh-huh. 226 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:57,200 Okay, we're getting calls from as far south as San Diego and probably 75 to 100 miles 227 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,200 inland. 228 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,200 I don't know of any special military operations or anything going on, or something like that. 229 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,200 Is there any U-shells expected in the area? 230 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:11,200 No, not really, but from the descriptions we have a tentative of a navigation of a meteor 231 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,200 fireball, although on the explosion there was no sound, which is very unusual. 232 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Well, there's nothing more than one, because these things are coming in at different times 233 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,200 at a different place. 234 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,200 Right. 235 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:28,200 And I'm really interested in the one that the guy was looking at and watching that was 236 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,200 doing anything. 237 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,200 Uh-huh. 238 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,200 So, he saw something just coming in to relieve me, so he saw what looked like a fake fireball 239 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,200 that went down, but he didn't see anything. 240 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,200 Uh-huh. 241 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,200 So, anyway, I'm glad I had my two discs worth there. 242 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,200 Thanks very much. 243 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,200 Okay. 244 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,200 Right. 245 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Thank you. 246 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:55,200 I just observed a big flash outside of my house, and let's see, three minutes after I 247 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,200 observed the flash, I walked back inside with some other friends of mine. 248 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,200 Uh-huh. 249 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,200 And observed a big bone, like my whole house. 250 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,200 It was like a sonic bone, where the house starts shaking. 251 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,200 Where are you living? 252 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,200 Chiropractor. 253 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,200 Chiropractor, okay. 254 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,200 It was like a breathing flash. 255 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,200 It lasted at least two to three seconds. 256 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:24,200 Long enough for me to look at the guy that was looking at it out of the window and then 257 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,200 look at the flash myself out of the window. 258 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,200 Did you see the object that's south-corn across the sky? 259 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,200 No. 260 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,200 It wasn't like a streak, but it was a spark or something. 261 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,200 Okay. 262 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:43,200 The streak, how in the sky, what was it in relation to directly overhead to you? 263 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:49,200 It wasn't even, well, how far up do you think it was? 264 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,200 We can't look to. 265 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,200 Is this right or not? 266 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,200 Like a four, five-story building. 267 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,200 Okay, what I mean is, was this overhead? 268 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,200 Did it pass overhead? 269 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,200 No. 270 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,200 Okay, looking out of my window, I would say it was like someone would throw something 271 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,200 out of a four or five-story building. 272 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,200 I see, okay. 273 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,200 No clouds in the sky. 274 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,200 Okay. 275 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,200 You know, I call it week's apartment until the morning. 276 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,200 Well, maybe it's raining. 277 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,200 Okay. 278 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,200 There are no clouds in the sky. 279 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,200 He said he saw it also. 280 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,200 Right. 281 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:29,200 We're getting calls from Northern California to San Diego and about 100 miles inland. 282 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,200 And the tentative identification on this so far is a meteor fireball. 283 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,200 A meteor fireball? 284 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,200 Which exploded upon entering the atmosphere. 285 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,200 That's just tentative, not definite. 286 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,200 Oh, it's tentative. 287 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,200 Right. 288 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,200 A meteor fireball that fired off where? 289 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,200 To explode it after it entered the atmosphere. 290 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,200 Oh, it exploded after it entered the atmosphere. 291 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,200 Right. 292 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,200 But that was pretty heavy, man. 293 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,200 Yes. 294 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:58,200 Well, a lot of spectacular sightings are being described to us tonight. 295 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,200 Oh, well, are you going to mail me any literature? 296 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,200 Uh, would you like a questionnaire? 297 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,200 Yeah, why not? 298 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,200 Okay. 299 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,200 Great. 300 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,200 I got to get something for calling you. 301 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:17,200 Hey, Mr. Nutt, do you think there's anything to do with Earth, colleagues? 302 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,200 We haven't. 303 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,200 I sound like a reporter, huh? 304 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,200 It's very possible. 305 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,200 I can't give any justness statement on that, but it's very possible. 306 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,200 Hey, listen, you call me, man, if we don't have one here. 307 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,200 I'm staying. 308 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,200 Okay. 309 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,200 I'll send you a postcard. 310 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,200 Okay. 311 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,200 Because I want to know so I can prepare and move. 312 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,200 Okay, thanks much for calling. 313 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,200 Later. 314 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,200 Right. 315 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,200 Mr. Nutt, are you putting center? 316 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,200 Yes. 317 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,200 This is Pasadena, California. 318 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,200 Yes, sir. 319 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:52,200 And your number was given me by the Pasadena Police Department to call. 320 00:13:52,200 --> 00:14:01,200 At 23 minutes past the 11 o'clock tonight, that specific day of that time, uh, savings 321 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:11,200 time, I saw a, what I believe to be a meteor was very brilliant and it did strike the surface. 322 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:18,200 I was in the western end of Pasadena, in this, apparently came from the northwest and it 323 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:27,200 was on a bearing from me of about 340 degrees from true north. 324 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:32,200 And it was greenish in color, very brilliant. 325 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:41,200 It made quite a bit of smoke in its tail and it lit north of either one or several of the 326 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,200 mountains which are northwest of Pasadena. 327 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,200 Uh huh. 328 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,200 Uh, let's say between Pasadena and Bakersfield. 329 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:53,200 And I saw a second brilliance when it evidently struck the surface. 330 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,200 In other words, it started to flash. 331 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,200 Did you hear any sound with it? 332 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,200 No. 333 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,200 No, I heard no sound. 334 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:06,200 And I would estimate its distance from me at its closest point would probably have been 335 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,200 from 20 to 40 miles. 336 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,200 Sir, could you hold for one moment please? 337 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,200 Yes. 338 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,200 Mr. Can I help you? 339 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,200 Yeah, this is the Chronicle in San Francisco. 340 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:15,200 Yes. 341 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:20,200 We just had a, uh, a large unidentified flying object streak over our city. 342 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Okay, now could I interrupt? 343 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,200 Could you hold for just a moment, I'll get this other party off the line. 344 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Yeah, very quick, Dr. We want to get out of here. 345 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,200 Okay, hang on just a minute. 346 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Yes, sir, could I get your name and address and telephone number soon so we can get back 347 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,200 to you, we're just flooded with calls. 348 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,200 Yes. 349 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,200 Okay, sir, we'll get back to you later. 350 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,200 It could be tomorrow. 351 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:46,200 Now I would appreciate you sending me a report form because I would tell you of several past 352 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,200 findings that I have had. 353 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Thank you. 354 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,200 I've never had a senator report them to. 355 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,200 Very, thank you very much, sir, and we'll get back to you. 356 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,200 Thank you. 357 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,200 Thank you. 358 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,200 Thank you for holding. 359 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,200 Yeah, um, just a sec, hang on. 360 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,200 He's going to read you the story so you can just take notes off it, all right? 361 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,200 Okay. 362 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,200 You ready? 363 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,200 Sure. 364 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:13,200 A storageable size unidentified flying object streaked across Northern California last 365 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,200 night and was believed to have responded to San Francisco Bay. 366 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:23,200 The object described by some of the meteor was cited by numerous police officers on patrol 367 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:28,200 as well as nearly 100 citizens who called in to find out what it was. 368 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:33,200 FAAF tool said they thought it might be a reentry vehicle from the tons of space hardware 369 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,200 that floats around the air. 370 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:41,200 Perhaps the best explanations came from the veteran airline pilot Hugh Williams who spotted 371 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,200 the object as he was parking his car near the intersection of Boken and the Sonic streets 372 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,200 here in the city. 373 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:54,200 Williams, 46, and a pilot for the last 25 years, said, quote, it came in from the southwest 374 00:16:54,200 --> 00:17:01,200 at about 2,000 feet altitude, going between 6,000 and 8,000 miles an hour at an angle 375 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,200 of about 60 degrees. 376 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:08,200 The mass of the object was huge, Williams said, estimating that it could have been as much 377 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,200 as 500 feet long, about the size of a dirgeable or a blimp. 378 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,200 Williams said the object was sheathed in white flame. 379 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:20,200 When it came over him, he said it burst into an explosion of red flashing and then turned 380 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,200 into a greenish copper flame and finally into a green blaze. 381 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:30,200 Williams said it was the biggest meteor I've seen in my professional career and I guarantee 382 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,200 you that had hit the ground a lot of people would have known about it. 383 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:39,200 An air controller at San Francisco International Airport said it was by far the biggest thing 384 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,200 I've seen coming in like that. 385 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,200 The object was spotted by Steve Rector, an 18-year-old college of Marin student. 386 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,200 He spotted it from a park near his home in San Rafael. 387 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,200 I saw a big flash of lightning. 388 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,200 Rector said it was just like flashed cord, like lightning in the sky. 389 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:01,200 The coast guard said they had not yet dispatched vessels to see if they could find the object. 390 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:07,200 But now they had telephone calls reporting the sky striker from the Vede Gabbay to Monterey. 391 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,200 Okay, beautiful. 392 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,200 Okay, you want me to add anything to that? 393 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,200 If you'd like. 394 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,200 Okay, we got calls from Utah to Pasadena. 395 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:25,200 And the only party that we've talked to so far to report any sound was in Turlock, which 396 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,200 is in the San Fernando Valley. 397 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,200 You said sound. 398 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,200 They heard noise in Turlock. 399 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:38,200 Yes, a tremendous explosion which he said shook his house. 400 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,200 Wow. 401 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:45,200 And now that's the only report we've got so far of an explosion which would indicate something 402 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,200 had disintegrated within the atmosphere. 403 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,200 Did anybody actually see this thing hit the bay? 404 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,200 No, that's really not clear on where it's gone. 405 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:59,200 Okay, the problem is with something like this that it's very deceiving. 406 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,200 Right, they're so big you're not sure where it is. 407 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,200 We've had reports of this thing coming in from every direction of the compass. 408 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,200 A lot of people just freak out here. 409 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:16,200 But the earliest report that we did get, the man said he saw one coming in at 1110. 410 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,200 Now this is much earlier. 411 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,200 What was that call from? 412 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,200 That came from Penn Valley. 413 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,200 Where's Penn Valley? 414 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:31,200 It would be just south of Grass Valley in Nevada County. 415 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,200 Yeah, yeah. 416 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,200 Okay, and that's about all you got then. 417 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,200 We've got all the reports that we've got so far except for general male descriptions. 418 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,200 But nothing definite of anything hitting the ground. 419 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,200 Alright, thanks a lot. 420 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,200 Thank you for calling. 421 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,200 Right. 422 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,200 Yeah, this is a chronicle. 423 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,200 Again, we just wanted to get your official name and location. 424 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,200 UFO reporting center. 425 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,200 And what city are you in? 426 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,200 Seattle, Washington. 427 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,200 Seattle, Washington. 428 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,200 Do they have any idea where this thing landed? 429 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,200 No. 430 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,200 None at all. 431 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,200 Nothing, there hasn't been enough information to come through on a good triangulation yet. 432 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,200 Is it possible to hit the San Francisco Bay? 433 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,200 We have some people who report that they thought it might have. 434 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:18,200 Well, I have had reports of possible disintegration in the Bay Area, disintegration down by Pasadena, 435 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,200 and disintegration east of this year in Nevada. 436 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,200 So it all depends on where the individual was at. 437 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,200 He's going to be looking at it from a different angle and they're going to give different descriptions. 438 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:33,200 Do you think it might have been disintegration instead of hitting the water? 439 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,200 That's the thing that hit the San Francisco Bay. 440 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,200 Everybody in the Bay Area would have known about it. 441 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,200 Can you talk to a reporter on this for a second? 442 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,200 Sure. 443 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,200 Yeah, here. 444 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,200 Yeah, hello. 445 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,200 Is this a UFO center? 446 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,200 UFO reporting center, Seattle, Washington. 447 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,200 Seattle, Washington? 448 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,200 Right. 449 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,200 Oh, is that where I called? 450 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,200 That's where the Area 206 is? 451 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,200 Right. 452 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,200 Okay. 453 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:59,200 What do you think it did? 454 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:05,200 Well, from the descriptions that we got, this thing was probably a disintegrating meteor 455 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,200 fireball or bull-eyed. 456 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:15,200 And like I said, we don't have enough definite data right now to tell whether the thing actually 457 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:21,200 made impact on the ground because we're getting so many different descriptions of different 458 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,200 flight directions. 459 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,200 And you're the UFO reporting center, right? 460 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,200 Right. 461 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,200 Okay. 462 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,200 The private organization. 463 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,200 Right. 464 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,200 Okay. 465 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,200 You got reports from Utah to? 466 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,200 Pasadena. 467 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,200 Pasadena. 468 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,200 Right. 469 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,200 Okay. 470 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,200 We have an awful good description. 471 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,200 Do you hear the descriptions from the airline pilot? 472 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,200 Yes. 473 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,200 Yeah. 474 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,200 That was fantastic. 475 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,200 Yeah, I think so. 476 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,200 Okay, but you have no idea where it landed? 477 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,200 No, not at the present time. 478 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,200 Oh, but there's an explosion over Turlock, right? 479 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,200 And this explosion, you know. 480 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,200 Where's Turlock? 481 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,200 That's, uh... 482 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,200 What county I'm trying to think of. 483 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,200 Hang on a second, I got a map right here. 484 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:06,200 If I wrote my story that believed to have disintegrated along the coast, would that be fair enough? 485 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:12,200 Well, I think that one person's guess is as good as any right now. 486 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,200 Right. 487 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,200 Because we're going to get all kinds of descriptions. 488 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,200 Yeah. 489 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,200 Okay. 490 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,200 You find Turlock? 491 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,200 Turlock is just west. 492 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:26,200 Put this way, it's about eight miles south of Modesto. 493 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,200 Okay. 494 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,200 Now, I wonder if you guys could do me a favor. 495 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,200 Do you have any connection with the AP or UPI down there? 496 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,200 Yeah, we do. 497 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,200 Okay. 498 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,200 What we want to do is get witnesses who saw this thing traveling directly overhead. 499 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,200 Okay, I'll give you the name Captain Hugh Williams, United Airlines. 500 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,200 Okay. 501 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,200 Was that the one in the story? 502 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,200 Yeah. 503 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,200 Okay. 504 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,200 He saw it from the air, though, didn't he? 505 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,200 No, he saw it from the ground. 506 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,200 Well, that's right. 507 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,200 He was driving, right? 508 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,200 He was parking his car right over his head. 509 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,200 Right. 510 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,200 Okay, listen, I'm running on deadline. 511 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,200 I gotta go, okay? 512 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,200 Okay, thanks much. 513 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,200 Okay, thanks a lot. 514 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,200 Please feel free to call anytime. 515 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,200 Okay, thanks very much. 516 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,200 Bye. 517 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,200 Yeah, I'm calling from San Luisville and I couldn't find anybody here because he could give me 518 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,200 any kind of information. 519 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:16,200 But I saw this, excuse me, a ball of light flying through the sky and started out kind 520 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:27,200 of small and got pretty big and sort of lit up the sky like lightning and sort of looked 521 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,200 like it had planes on it. 522 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,200 Yes. 523 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,200 And so that's it. 524 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,200 And I'm wondering what it was. 525 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Okay, what time did you see that first of all? 526 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:41,200 About an hour ago and I found out from calling Al Hamilton Airport Station and police found 527 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:47,200 that several other sightings of it had been seen and some of it had been seen more than 528 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,200 once. 529 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,200 We've had calls from Ukiah to Pasadena. 530 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:57,200 And from what we can get, just a tentative identification from the information we've 531 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:04,200 got to date or to this time would be a very large bull-eyed meteor fireball. 532 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,200 Oh, yeah? 533 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:11,200 Which entered the atmosphere, apparently over the San Francisco Bay Area and exploded. 534 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:18,200 Well, we're not too sure of the altitude, but we're getting kind of a scramble of reports 535 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,200 right now. 536 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,200 We haven't been able to get the puzzle put together. 537 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,200 Well, we were sure it's a meteor fireball or something. 538 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:29,200 That's what I thought it was, but there's no place I could call. 539 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:34,200 I don't know who to ask, you know, and I just wanted to press my word. 540 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,200 Curiosity, I guess. 541 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,200 Okay, how long was that in sight when you were watching it? 542 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:45,200 It seemed to last about, oh, not very long, 15, 20 seconds. 543 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,200 Okay, now, did it come anywhere near to being directly overhead? 544 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:57,200 No, it looked like I was at a little west of San Rafael and from where I looked, it 545 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,200 looked like it was just right over the bay or San Rafael or something. 546 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,200 Getting in which direction? 547 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,200 It went from the south towards the north. 548 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,200 Okay. 549 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,200 And did you hear any sound at all? 550 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,200 No, I didn't, but I was in my car driving. 551 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,200 I see. 552 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,200 I was with no one. 553 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,200 Okay. 554 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,200 There's no place for anybody to call to find out around here. 555 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,200 I think they should have some kind of information for things like that. 556 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,200 Okay, we're curious to know where you got our number. 557 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:32,200 I called the San Rafael Police Department, because I couldn't find anything to call. 558 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,200 They would give me any information, so they called and gave me your number. 559 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,200 Great. 560 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,200 Well, we sure appreciate this, and I'm sure that it was a meteor fireball. 561 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,200 Okay, thank you. 562 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,200 You're welcome. 563 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,200 All right, bye. 564 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,200 How's it landed there? 565 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:52,200 Well, some of the witnesses said that they appeared to have landed and some said that 566 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,200 it appeared to have exploded in the sky. 567 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,200 Where did you see this at? 568 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,200 Down at the open. 569 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,200 Okay, now, how was this in relation to you? 570 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,200 It was towards Napa. 571 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,200 Towards Napa? 572 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,200 I seen a flash out towards the coast. 573 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,200 Uh-huh. 574 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,200 And all he's done is smoke orange, bro, the smoke orange, bro. 575 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,200 And it looked like it was in the state of Napa, but no one knew that it was out, but it 576 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,200 was right out in front of me. 577 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,200 Uh-huh. 578 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,200 So it was shot over by Napa, I guess. 579 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,200 Okay, now, did you hear any sound? 580 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,200 No, I was waiting for a note, so I remember nothing else. 581 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,200 Uh-huh. 582 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,200 But how long would you say that you observed that? 583 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,200 Oh, boy. 584 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,200 It was just like five seconds, five seconds, baby. 585 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,200 But the flash and the flash, he didn't see the flash, 586 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,200 nor was the call-up. 587 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,200 Because his personal friend learned down there, 588 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,200 and died when he was talking over to his guy. 589 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,200 And he seen the flash, he turned around and said, 590 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,200 he's been looking for him while he's there. 591 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,200 Yeah. 592 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,200 And both guys were going to take it out, 593 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,200 and they were all going to go back to the village. 594 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,200 Yeah, there's a lot. 595 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,200 Yeah, I would say there's been several thousand in the Bay Area, 596 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,200 but from the reports that we got from the law enforcement agencies, 597 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,200 their switchboards were lit up like Christmas trees. 598 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,200 Oh, wow. 599 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,200 They were going to look up a road to the hub. 600 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,200 What were you looking at? 601 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,200 We were located in Seattle, Washington, 602 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,200 at the center. 603 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,200 Seattle? 604 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,200 Yeah. 605 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,200 Wow. 606 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,200 That's pretty far away. 607 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,200 No, not really. 608 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,200 It's like, look, you're down here in California. 609 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,200 Yeah, I love your California. 610 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,200 That's all right. 611 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,200 I left a couple weeks ago, we got loaded and rained out again. 612 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,200 You really need it, don't you? 613 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,200 We really do. 614 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,200 Well, we're getting an overabundance of it up here this month. 615 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,200 We're trying out. 616 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,200 Yeah. 617 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,200 We're curious to know we got our number. 618 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,200 Well, we got your number? 619 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,200 Yes. 620 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,200 Santa Rosa Police Department? 621 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,200 Yes. 622 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Sheriff's Department. 623 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,200 I called the car. 624 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,200 Okay, well, we appreciate the call. 625 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,200 Okay, well, thank you. 626 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,200 No, no, I was busy. 627 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,200 Okay. 628 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,200 Good night. 629 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,200 Right. 630 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,200 That's the one I saw. 631 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,200 Very disnoy. 632 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:13,200 I live on Petro Hill, which is on the east side of the city, 633 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,200 looking to the east bay towards Oakland, Alameda. 634 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,200 Yes. 635 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,200 And I'm very close to the water. 636 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,200 I was sitting at my table in the dining room, 637 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,200 and at about 11, 20 or so. 638 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,200 I looked through the window in the kitchen. 639 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,200 There are trees out there, and I saw the meteor, whatever it was, 640 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,200 come down. 641 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,200 It was a ball quite large and white, 642 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,200 with a part that was burning. 643 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,200 It looked like more like the regular color of fire at one end 644 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,200 than white on the other end. 645 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,200 But it was quite large. 646 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,200 And from the distance where I am, 647 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,200 it would, I don't know how fast they burn hot, 648 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,200 but it would appear that it would not have burned up, 649 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,200 but it would have gone into the water. 650 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Although I didn't see it because of the trees. 651 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,200 Now, what was the exact direction of flight of that? 652 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,200 Let me see. 653 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:16,200 I was sitting, I was facing towards the, 654 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,200 what I would say, south, towards the airport. 655 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,200 And it was coming south from that, 656 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:30,200 let's see, south, at an angle from the south to the, 657 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:35,200 my direction, because I can see it, 658 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,200 it would be coming south at an angle about, 659 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:46,200 I don't know exactly how to describe it, 660 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,200 but it would be about three quarters of the way from, 661 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,200 instead of straight down, 662 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,200 like an angle three quarters of the way over. 663 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,200 Then you would say that it was moving from north to south? 664 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,200 From south to north. 665 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,200 Okay, fine. 666 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,200 This is a point we're trying to get pinned down. 667 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,200 I'm not sure of what I have south or north right in this area, 668 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,200 though I refer to south as the east as the east bay, 669 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,200 which may not be accurate. 670 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,200 That you felt that it went out of sight in what you would consider 671 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,200 would be the bay area? 672 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,200 It's actually the bay of the water. 673 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,200 Right, okay. 674 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,200 Between San Francisco and roughly Alameda, 675 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,200 the local air station in Alameda. 676 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,200 Right. 677 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,200 And you didn't hear any sound, did you, by any chance? 678 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,200 No. 679 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:49,200 We were trying to pin down whether it was any kind of an aerial explosion. 680 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,200 We've had several reports from the San Fernando Valley area, 681 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,200 which reported a tremendous aerial concussion, 682 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,200 and apparently no one in the bay area heard that, 683 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200 so if it did disintegrate, 684 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,200 it probably did so over towards the valley. 685 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,200 Either that or we're dealing with more than one object. 686 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,200 It was quite large. 687 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,200 I've never seen anything that large in the whole kind of a situation. 688 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,200 I had been meditating right before, 689 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,200 so I was very calm and relaxed, 690 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,200 and the foreknight would call it so vividly. 691 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,200 Was this quite bright? 692 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,200 Yes, very bright. 693 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,200 Okay, well, I'll tell you, 694 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,200 if we come up with any definite answers on this, 695 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,200 why don't we get back to you one way or another and let you know. 696 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,200 Can you tell me about your research group? 697 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,200 It's a very small group made up of laymen and scientists, 698 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,200 and they're all volunteers, 699 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,200 and we're just working very diligently trying to come up with some answers 700 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,200 in relation to the UFO phenomenon, 701 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,200 and events associated with the UFO mystery. 702 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,200 And is it funded by anyone? 703 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,200 It is self-funded. 704 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,200 Alright, thank you very much. 705 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,200 No, thank you again for calling. 706 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,200 Great, thanks. 707 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,200 I'm calling from the downstairs payphone, 708 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,200 because I can't make a loan just by calling the office phone. 709 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,200 And the thing went by, it was not immediate, 710 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:29,200 it just no way, because it had something that was straight 711 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,200 and slanted about a 45-degree angle, 712 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,200 like when you paint a straight bus or something, 713 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,200 you kind of find it, make it jazzed up, make it look good. 714 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,200 This is a black thing in the middle of that flame 715 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,200 at about a 45-degree angle, 716 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,200 and meteors just don't get those things. 717 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,200 No way, no way they haven't. 718 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,200 And I was just wondering, everybody says it's a meteor, 719 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,200 and meteor, everybody's kind of laughing at me here at work. 720 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,200 I just thought I'd call somebody up and find out something about it. 721 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,200 Of course, we've had a lot of descriptions. 722 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,200 I looked at it, see we have carrying glass in our computer room here. 723 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,200 And I was working on one on the far side where the glass was at, 724 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,200 and everybody says it was blue, green, and fiber, I didn't see that. 725 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,200 I don't know if the carrying glass kind of cut it out or not, 726 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,200 but I did see the orange flame, it looked like a long, 727 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,200 looked like a big, big, big, 728 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,200 well to me, I thought it was a private plane crash, 729 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,200 it was very close to where I thought it was, that big to me. 730 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,200 Now, I don't know how far away it was from me, or what course it took, 731 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,200 but it looked like a private plane about 300, 400 yards away. 732 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200 That's how big it looked to my eye. 733 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,200 Now, which direction were you looking at the time? 734 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:43,200 I, okay, I was on Webster Street, 735 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,200 if you don't mind, you just have a map open, do you? 736 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,200 Yes. 737 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,200 Could you get it out? 738 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,200 Because I get the direction, I live in Manteco, 739 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,200 which is 70 miles away, and I commute back and forth. 740 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,200 Yeah. 741 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,200 Okay, and my uncle's records are that good. 742 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:04,200 So, when I was looking out, the Webster Street side of the Blue Cross building, 743 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,200 whichever way Webster Street runs, is roughly the same way that the UFO thing was going. 744 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,200 Okay, then we can check that later. 745 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,200 Yeah, okay, and that's, was this thing coming in at an angle? 746 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,200 Yeah, you said it was. 747 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,200 It seemed like it was going at a slight downward angle. 748 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,200 Right. 749 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,200 Why is that? 750 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,200 How long were you watching that? 751 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:30,200 I would say about, I only got about a half to a fifth of a second, 752 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,200 a half to a fourth of a second maybe, because it was going that fast. 753 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,200 Right. 754 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,200 And it looked like, have you ever been in an open? 755 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,200 Yes. 756 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,200 Well, you know the open hills? 757 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,200 Oh, yes. 758 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,200 Well, it looked like you went behind those hills, 759 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,200 and you know, it could have crossed my vision, 760 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,200 and it looked like it disappeared behind those hills. 761 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,200 That's where, there was a light plane crossing beyond, you know, I can catch a valley. 762 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,200 Right. 763 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,200 That's what it looked like to me, but then my next to a neighbor in Mantica said, 764 00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:01,200 he saw something that looked like a lightning, you know, about the same time, 765 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,200 and that's 70 miles away from where I work. 766 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,200 Right, we had quite a few reports of a brilliant flash in this guy. 767 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,200 This was a flash. 768 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,200 This is Google yellowish orange plane, and it looked like, 769 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,200 as large as the private plane, three or four yards away, 770 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,200 but it looked like a cigar cut off at one end, 771 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,200 and then it had just dug on a stripe at about a 45 degree angle, 772 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:29,200 going, you know, going back, 773 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,200 that way from top to bottom, it was slanted from the top to the bottom. 774 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,200 I'm not being clear, am I? 775 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,200 Anyway, it was a flash, you know, 776 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:49,200 like if you took a rectangle and drew a line from the top side to the bottom side, 777 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:58,200 then as you face that rectangle, the angle to your left would be the obtuse angle, 778 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,200 and the angle to your right on the top would be the acute angle, 779 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,200 the smaller the angle is, 780 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,200 and on the bottom would be just the opposite, 781 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,200 the angle on your left would be less than 90, 782 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,200 and the angle on your right would be more than 90, 783 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,200 and the obtuse angle would be the big one. 784 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,200 We had one pilot describe that thing as being almost 500 feet long, 785 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,200 what would be your opinion? 786 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,200 I wouldn't know where, like I say, 787 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,200 I'm standing left to the street, and it looked like to me like it was about four or five hundred yards away, 788 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,200 and it looked like it was bigger than a private plane. 789 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,200 Now, where it was at in relation to that, 790 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:35,200 I had no way of knowing it, it looked to me like a private plane about three or four hundred yards away, 791 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,200 so I would say, you know, like this, that big, 792 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,200 but I am not very clear on the distance. 793 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,200 Well, if we get any definite answers on this, 794 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,200 why we'll get back to you and let you know. 795 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,200 Okay, because no way was in the media, like the paper says, no way, no way. 796 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,200 Okay, thanks man. 797 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,200 Thanks much. 798 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,200 Bye-bye.